Comments on: You can’t always get what you want

By: scopettg

scopettg — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:27:13 +0000

Prostitution…
Many sell their virginals and butts for the movie industry in China… Many still acted like angels pure from heavens.
When the world has too many powerful richees, their aim is to make you sell your sexy bodies while you hope they will see the talents in you.
Snobs know no talents.
Prostitution… It’s just sex sex and sex. Basic human behavior, on commercial basis.

By: belledame222

belledame222 — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:43:55 +0000

…whereas when I think of “polygamy” I tend to think of the more egalitarian and queer multiple relationships I’m familiar with than the more traditional “one man, bunch of wives” set-up. i tend not to give the latter much thought i suppose. (and i have no cable, haven’t seen Big Love).

By: belledame222

belledame222 — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:41:52 +0000

yeah, I’m not a big fan of “revolution” myself. I think it’s what happens when absolutely nothing else has worked, and I do think a lot of people–not everyone, there are certainly some situations where i can totally understand the sentiment that “nothing else has worked”–but for a lot of people it tends to be more of a vehicle for expressing inner turmoil than any serious attempt to make meaningful structural change. definitely i’m always profoundly mistrustful of people who go on and on about “revolution” but only ever seem to have the vaguest idea of what they actually want to set up in the place of what they’re so eager to tear down.

which tends to lead me to the conclusion that the tearing down is the goal in its own right, for such people. which again brings me back to “inner turmoil.” it tends to preclude listening to what other people are actually saying they want and need.

By: Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2007-09-20

Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » links for 2007-09-20 — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:33:17 +0000

[...] You can’t always get what you want « Natalia Antonova “While living in the United States, and hearing about the Feminist Revolution that’s just around the corner, I’ve still had to accept that in order to help actual people today – one has to choose practical means.” (tags: ukraine world women feminism sexwork prostitution important) [...]

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:59:42 +0000

Why would I *ever* mind such a thing? (Well, I might, if you were a Nazi, haha)

It’s interesting you should bring up polygamy. My knee-jerk reaction to polygamy is always OMIGOD YOU FREAKING MORONS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? But that’s just denying the people involved in these relationships any agency. Denying them a voice, etc. I do hate it when some of them talk about how their choice is the only “right” choice, and going around pressuring other sisters to “get with the program.” I rarely see prostitutes do that.

But the bottom line is, I think we are all exploited, as humans, to varying degrees.

By: Muse

Muse — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:29:27 +0000

Great, nuanced post Natalia. I believe in a woman’s choice to run her life as she deems fit, but it sure is hard to stand back and accept when her choices dont agree with mine. I face that dilemma when I encounter or read about women who are content in polygamous situations. To me, it feels almost inherently exploitive at first (I have similar feelings towards prostitution), but like you say its not always that simple.

Eh, I could say a lot more about this, but I’ll stop. Mind if I add you to my blogroll btw? I’m a fan.

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:21:41 +0000

Yay! I could really use some more U.S. politics related stuff.

As for the word revolution… It IS funny how to so many people – it has positive connotations. And the minute I hear it, I think: blood, death, mutilation, humiliation, destruction.

By: daisydeadhead

daisydeadhead — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:00:54 +0000

Awesome post. I am still digesting it.

Allergic to the word “revolution” huh? You have reminded me that we all had different attachments to such words–hippie baby-boomers often regard the word as the equivalent of “heaven”–i.e. when we get to heaven = after the revolution. I always have to remember it has different connotations for everyone!

And BTW, I am working on that article for you about the fundies … I decided it would be best to hold off until around the South Carolina primary, which will make it more newsworthy!

If Lindsay Graham is dumped over the side before then, I’ll finish it for you sooner!

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:07:12 +0000

Thanks, Amber. And yep, my friend had every right to tell me to bugger off.

By: Amber

Amber — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:50:25 +0000

She had gotten into a comfortable groove in regards to what she did, with her pool of regulars, and she didn’t need me coming in trying to “save” her, as she put it.

*nods*

Yep. It can be hard to accept sometimes, but the truth of the matter is, friends don’t try to run friends’ lives.

Oh, and also… really wonderful post, Natalia. I heart your blog.