Comments on: Are these people just wishing something truly horrible would happen to Renegade Evolution?

By: Vanessa

Vanessa — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:54:30 +0000

“I think I can write her response for her at this point:”

Seriously. Shorter Ginmar: Blah blah blah fuck you sex poxes, blah blah blah stupid college girl, blah blah blah Renegade Evolution said die under a bus, blah blah blah belledame is mean, blah blah blah none of you could hack it in the army anyway, bet you won’t publish this, screw you guys I’m going home, the end.

By: Sarah J

Sarah J — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:40:48 +0000

“And that’s the bottom line, isn’t it? When did the ideology, the politics, the “feminism” become more important than women? When did that happen? Some people need to get some perspective, seriously.”

And Debi for the win.

Because it’s totally OK to slag off women for whatever we can think of, so long as they’re the Wrong Type of women…yeah, I can think of where that attitude comes from.

By: Citizen Jane

Citizen Jane — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:42:42 +0000

Wow. I’m a newbie to the online world of feminism, so maybe I’m just not familiar with some back story, but all this drama reminds me of what I’ve read about the spouses and children of abusers. Apparently, the victims carry surprisingly little animosity for their abuser, but instead project the abuse onto each other. The victims somehow transfer it in their minds, so that they feel abused by their fellow victims instead of their actual abuser. They then do a lot of fighting against each other rather than uniting against their abuser. This is, of course, very useful for the abuser.

The people I’m seeing here seem to be emulating this to a T, with the whole of a sexist society standing in for the abuser. And I’m shocked and horrified and depressed now. I was definitely not prepared for this when I googled “feminism.”

By: belledame222

belledame222 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:35:19 +0000

oh, right, gin’s probably not darkening your doorstep again, N. That’s okay: I think I can write her response for her at this point:

–wait, wait, I bet I can channel it:

“Fuck you, BD. RE lies about [something that is a) of marginal if any relevance to the situation at hand b) an allusion to yet another dwama from the Pleistocene era that Gr's never forgiven or forgotten, c) nearly unrecognizable in her version anyway], and all of you coo over her bullshit. Oh, and [yet another person whose name had heretofore not been dragged into this, did something else of completely obscure relevance to everyone except ginmar]. How come no one ever says anything to HER, huh? Oh I know, because [jawdroppingly offensive and completely inappropriate insult/revelation about someone else's personal shit that also has fuckall to do with the situation]. Not that I expect anything better from you. You hate Me! You hate radfems! You hate people who type with my font! You want me dead! YOU owe ME an apology. You OWE ME. [last scattershot round at everyone in the immediate vicinity]“

By: Renegade Evolution

Renegade Evolution — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:31:20 +0000

belle- That’s exactly what she’s saying. I mean, apparently, I’ve lied about all kinds of shit…but no one is willing to say what, exactly, because you know, it is real easy to fling shit at people and never back it up, right? And really, I mean, after that infamous fucking thread over at her place, you know the one, where AntiPrincess got trashed while being pregnant, as did her then unborn son, and where all kinds of “we never blame the women” shit was flung at me, and Mr.E, who, oh, really has nothing to do with any of this…where I was called stupid, and let’s see, lots of speculation about my age and viability in my business was flying about, and…

yeah, Gin’s a stellar human being. And while I never really thought so before, I am beginning to also think a coward.

I love people who can’t ever admit when they are wrong, whine about how beat up they get when all they do is fucking throw shit at anyone who doesn’t abase themselves and give proper worship, and calls other people liars and whatnot when they’ve turned the process into a fine art, who call other people obsessed when they can’t make it through a topic that might, scantly, in a very distant way, have something to do with the evil stripping and porn without dragging me into it and slagging me because…well…maybe it’s been just a few too many weeks since the last time they did it…

And then have the nerve to bitch about ‘us’ calling them hairy fat lesbians or something when they’ve typed the words Ms. Plastic Tits…

It must be nice to be soooo fucking special!

By: belledame222

belledame222 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:19:37 +0000

oh, “that” specifically being a) dragging her broken nose into a conversation that had nothing to do with it in the first place b) misrepresenting how it happened for your own ends, as everyone including RE herself, has said very clearly now.

and no, it isn’t separate from the idea that RE “lies.” Are you saying she’s lying about what happened to her own damn nose or aren’t you?

By: belledame222

belledame222 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:13:33 +0000

I have “a standard,” now? garsh. well–I guess I do, come to that. standards, anyway.

It’s really not that hard to understand, ginmar, even for you, if you wanted to. fortunately, none of us is going to be holding our breath until you type the magic words:

“You’re right. I shouldn’t have said -that-. I apologize.”

maybe sometime after the Rapture and/or the much vaunted Revolution.

By: Caroline

Caroline — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:34:12 +0000

Gin –
“The bile she throws at Radfems has been continuous and vile. ”
- Are you KIDDING me with that? After what you’ve come out with it’s a wonder you’ve got the bloody nerve! Shit, you want to see some of the stuff written about her. But, nah, you’re probably blind to it.

“Then again, your reading list includes all the standard anti radfems.”
- LOL. Shit, you’ve not got a clue, have you?

By: Renegade Evolution

Renegade Evolution — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:31:23 +0000

Oh, and I’ll freely admit I say a lot of nasty things about SOME rad fems, but lets not pretend for a second that ain’t a two way street.

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:21:20 +0000

There’s an old Soviet joke that comes to mind (I will paraphrase):

A wolf is walking through the forest, when all of a sudden, a hysterical rabbit runs smack into him.

Wolf: “Hey rabbit, WTF?!”

Rabbit: “Shit, man, shit, shit, shit. We have to run away, far away, yo. Did you hear the latest news from NKVD [the original KGB]? They’re rounding up all camels and shooting them, dude!”

Wolf: “Um… What the hell does it have to do with us?”

Rabbit: “Just try proving to them that you’re not a camel!”

See, Ren, you can’t prove you’re not a camel to some people. They’re going to view you as a lying bitch because viewing you as anything else might force them to challenge or at least expand their own beliefs.

And we can’t have that.