Comments on: DISGUSTING

By: James Van Leuvaan

James Van Leuvaan — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:29:11 +0000

to that last comment, i would think that decriminalization and government regulatory involvement (as well as the obvious health department involvements), would take away quite a few of the criminal aspects. Though in truth and practice, as a Dutchman, I know that though prostitution (to a degree contrary to popular belief) in the Netherlands is “regulated” (not decriminalized), there are still criminal elements within the country, for those individuals who work within the sex industry, without permits to do so.

there is no way at all in my opinion to ever remove the criminal elements of society. It isn’t in human nature to choose the path of “good” over “evil” (with each individual having their own interpretations and understanding of each).

So, as this is a problem which is global, and not limited to certain regions of certain countries and so forth, it should be handled from a global perspective rather than a regional perspective… in this humble man’s opinion.

By: Durendal

Durendal — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:53:28 +0000

In the Netherlands we tried legalizing prostitution but it didn’t work to improve the situation of prostitutes and the exploitation of them by criminals and pimps.
Sad to say that legalizing the trade didn’t help one bit.
it actually helped increase the criminal exploitation of woman.
You can only have a legalized trade if criminal gangs and groups do not exploit the woman working in this trade.
And they can work for themselves and earn there own money without being intimidated to hand over there earnings to pimps and ruthless gangsters.

By: lily

lily — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:15:17 +0000

yes of course – would be v happy

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:17:02 +0000

I didn’t even read the article in the comments section initially – but now that I have, I agree that the descriptions are pretty gross… ugh.

Lily, can I e-mail you, btw?

By: lily

lily — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:45:25 +0000

Yes, great idea by the Ukrainian militia. Getting thrown out on the streets by their families is a really good method of persuading women to leave sex work.

what did you think of the article that’s posted afterwards as a comment ? (Ukraine is now the Sex Capital of Europe! Prostitution, Sex Tourism, Corruption at the Highest Levels, and the Internet in Kiev. By Richard Buckley)

It’s by a self-professed ‘professional writer’ who thought it relevant to tell us that the girls concerned were
‘..gorgeous. About 170 cm tall, with blonde hair, grey eyes and carried herself like a model.’, or …’“V” placed [the money] in her bra which didn’t have much room in it anyway.’ Or ‘she was “really hot”, about 172 cm and maybe 50 kilos with a great body draped with see through top and short miniskirt (this is pretty average dress of any girl in Kiev and not indicative of prostitutes).’

the attitude of the Ukrainian militia is stupid and disgusting but I suppose you could argue that this new campaign is an attempt – however misguided – to relate to the women as human beings with families and not just as sex objects (feel free to refute) – unlike this western male ‘professional writer’…

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:20:17 +0000

Sure. You guys know where to find me.

By: Jeff Mowatt

Jeff Mowatt — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:43:53 +0000

It would be nice, but I haven’t renewed my passport, so I’m bound to England but Terry who did all this stuff from Kharkiv might drink one for me!

Jeff

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:24:51 +0000

I’m glad you’ve been able to make headway, Jeff.

I should be in Ukraine in December – in Kiev. I don’t know if you’re going to be in the capital at all then, but if you are, I’d love to buy you a cup of coffee or a beer or something.

By: Jeff Mowatt

Jeff Mowatt — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:42:09 +0000

Natalia,

There’s a long story behind this which starts with a campaign to raise awareness of the plight of children in state care and the article “Death Camps for Children”. This is followed after 2 years by Albert Pavlov of “Happy Child” speaking out when a boy starves for want of medical attention.

The chronology of these events is related here on a widely read forum.

For-UA discussion

Response from Ukraine’s side was to agree for 400+ rehab centres to be built, doubling of adoption allowance and now, the main point of the paper, homes for all children will be piloted by the foundation of a BYUT member and his Feldman Foundation, in Kharkiv oblast where we are based in Ukraine.

Jeff

By: Natalia Antonova

Natalia Antonova — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:10:00 +0000

Oh, and thanks for the link, Jeff.