The answer is no. She is his possession, and therefore, he would be angry at the other men for soiling his property, not because he thinks she should have any agency of her own.

Thanks for giving the Blank Noise link at the end of the post. I just emailed my friend Jasmeen this post. Perhaps the BN group in Mumbai can seek this guy out and teach him a thing or two. LOL!

Anthony

I like what you say about Islam too – I have little experience with it, Muslims here are pretty much exclusively African, we have a Mosque down the road and I had Muslim Somalian friends as a kid but the religion was invisible to me, it wasn’t shoved down my throat like Christianity.

But anyway, I have no experience of Muslim countries – ultimately it’s more to do with being a fundamentalist culture than anything really. OK, what I’m trying to get at is:

Having experienced it up close and personal, I sense a strong spiritual tradition that I appreciate, being a spiritual person myself. What I don’t appreciate is the reality of it on the ground – the way people pretend to practice it.

Seems about right to me. I’m really dislike organised religion, and wish people didn’t need to believe in anything… but I also get a really good feeling off people who live and breathe and love their beliefs so I cannot see the day to day bullshit of people’s innate arseholishness having much to do with what they believe.

It’s just so closely integrated it’s hard to address them separately.

I hope that remotely made sense, I really can’t be bothered editing for clarity!

I’m not sure what is is about fundamentalist society — and it’s not just an Islam thing, I know devout Christian men who act like they have to right to use women for their grab-ass fantasies all the time — that generates assholes like Gaurav…but you shouldn’t have to suffer just because these losers don’t get enough porn in their lives to lust after women’s ankles, and want to take their myopia out on innocent women.

I really, really wish that good old Gaurav would attempt to pull that nonsense with someone like Ren Ev. It’d be the last time he’d be able to pinch anything. Or sit down.

Real women are real women, not your personal sex dolls. Respect them, please.

Anthony

However, I am way less of an idealist, you know? Like, I can’t gloss over the fact that in most Muslim-majority communities, women like me are regularly reduced to “sluts n’ whores” (and other women don’t fare much better). This doesn’t mean that I don’t have meaningful relationships or experiences when I’m over there, it just means that I don’t have any illusions about the way I’m perceived when I’m doing something as banal as buying a box of tampons at the local store, you know?

I’m way more tolerant than Islam than I used to be. Having experienced it up close and personal, I sense a strong spiritual tradition that I appreciate, being a spiritual person myself. What I don’t appreciate is the reality of it on the ground – the way people pretend to practice it.

I just hate the way you are punished for stupid crap – oh, you’re female? You have tits and legs and a bum…? Well, that’s dirty, that’s wrong, cover that stuff up, “men might get aroused,” etc. Oh yeah? How about this – if men can’t control themselves, how about THEY stay at home then, huh? And poke their own eyes out for good measure too.

Dubai is much healthier in this regard, because the majority of people who try to pull this stuff in public immediately get smacked down. I miss Dubai.