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	<title>Comments on: Um, so the response to Elizabeth Lambert&#8217;s ponytail-yanking incident isn&#8217;t sexist or anything&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting take on the incident, however I wholly disagree.  Ms. Lambert&#039;s actions cannot be viewed in a vacuum.  Her victims were women athletes who certainly do not expect to be assaulted in a futbol match.  If the victims were men, there would probably have been less of a furor, but they were women.  Male athletes expect more contact and potentially agressive and even violent behavior from other male athletes.  I don&#039;t think her actions are being vilified so much because she is not acting feminine enough, I truly believe we have progessed beyond that for female athletes.  And her actions were beyond loss of control during a physical athletic competition.  They were criminal.   And oh, by the way, to Jon L. . . . can we start with you, you creep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take on the incident, however I wholly disagree.  Ms. Lambert&#8217;s actions cannot be viewed in a vacuum.  Her victims were women athletes who certainly do not expect to be assaulted in a futbol match.  If the victims were men, there would probably have been less of a furor, but they were women.  Male athletes expect more contact and potentially agressive and even violent behavior from other male athletes.  I don&#8217;t think her actions are being vilified so much because she is not acting feminine enough, I truly believe we have progessed beyond that for female athletes.  And her actions were beyond loss of control during a physical athletic competition.  They were criminal.   And oh, by the way, to Jon L. . . . can we start with you, you creep.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Antonova</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalia Antonova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s very enlightened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very enlightened.</p>
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		<title>By: John L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Lambert should be raped,  Mike Tyson should be raped too... and so should George W. Bush be raped over and over and over again too... no sexism here.. they should all be raped then brutally killed. We should legalize public raping against convicted child molesters too.. all in favor say &#039;aye&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lambert should be raped,  Mike Tyson should be raped too&#8230; and so should George W. Bush be raped over and over and over again too&#8230; no sexism here.. they should all be raped then brutally killed. We should legalize public raping against convicted child molesters too.. all in favor say &#8216;aye&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalia Antonova</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalia Antonova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I honestly don&#039;t know how anonymous the internet is anymore. In fact, it really isn&#039;t. Maybe most people still don&#039;t realize that, but somehow, I doubt it. 

And it&#039;s true that whenever a woman acts like &quot;a bitch&quot; it&#039;s considered unnatural and worthy of punishment, in a way that male anger just isn&#039;t. Look at how annoyed everyone was with Kate Gosselin. And she was nothing out of the ordinary. Or look at how Hillary was chided for having &quot;an outburst&quot; when she rightly told someone at a Q &amp; A session that she, not her husband, is the Secretary of State, and what her husband thinks is irrelevant to the discussion. 

I&#039;m sure that plenty of people said that Mike Tyson deserved to be raped in jail, considering his own history with sexual assault. Which is another story, or maybe it isn&#039;t, considering how we trivialize rape - prison rape in particular.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don&#8217;t know how anonymous the internet is anymore. In fact, it really isn&#8217;t. Maybe most people still don&#8217;t realize that, but somehow, I doubt it. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s true that whenever a woman acts like &#8220;a bitch&#8221; it&#8217;s considered unnatural and worthy of punishment, in a way that male anger just isn&#8217;t. Look at how annoyed everyone was with Kate Gosselin. And she was nothing out of the ordinary. Or look at how Hillary was chided for having &#8220;an outburst&#8221; when she rightly told someone at a Q &amp; A session that she, not her husband, is the Secretary of State, and what her husband thinks is irrelevant to the discussion. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that plenty of people said that Mike Tyson deserved to be raped in jail, considering his own history with sexual assault. Which is another story, or maybe it isn&#8217;t, considering how we trivialize rape &#8211; prison rape in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you ask me ...

She should be charged with battery.
Tyson should have been charged with battery.
I&#039;m not familiar with the Wayne Rooney incident, but it sounds like assault and/or battery.

Though to be fair, I don&#039;t play any of the involved sports and didn&#039;t see any of the context leading up to the incidents and am not an expert in any aspect of it.  But people lose control all the time, and the law comes down on them.  And not being an expert, I wouldn&#039;t actually expect the law to ask me. 

As for people saying she needs a good raping, 1) the people saying this are jerks at best and 2) I&#039;ll bet somebody said that about Tyson too (again, don&#039;t know anything about Wayne.)  Perhaps he could get his nice raping in jail, where he belonged after that incident (again, IMHO - the jail, not the raping) ?

But sure, take the extreme, anonymous views from a few jerks who say she needs a good raping, who publish her parents phone number and extrapolate that into society saying things about a woman&#039;s image needing to be demure? 

The few, anonymous (anonymity is key here)  people with these extreme views do not represent society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ask me &#8230;</p>
<p>She should be charged with battery.<br />
Tyson should have been charged with battery.<br />
I&#8217;m not familiar with the Wayne Rooney incident, but it sounds like assault and/or battery.</p>
<p>Though to be fair, I don&#8217;t play any of the involved sports and didn&#8217;t see any of the context leading up to the incidents and am not an expert in any aspect of it.  But people lose control all the time, and the law comes down on them.  And not being an expert, I wouldn&#8217;t actually expect the law to ask me. </p>
<p>As for people saying she needs a good raping, 1) the people saying this are jerks at best and 2) I&#8217;ll bet somebody said that about Tyson too (again, don&#8217;t know anything about Wayne.)  Perhaps he could get his nice raping in jail, where he belonged after that incident (again, IMHO &#8211; the jail, not the raping) ?</p>
<p>But sure, take the extreme, anonymous views from a few jerks who say she needs a good raping, who publish her parents phone number and extrapolate that into society saying things about a woman&#8217;s image needing to be demure? </p>
<p>The few, anonymous (anonymity is key here)  people with these extreme views do not represent society.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A much more appropriate naming convention:

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6795/handegg.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A much more appropriate naming convention:</p>
<p><a href="http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6795/handegg.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6795/handegg.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: manas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[manas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[totally agree with you
how are you
post a new photo of you also]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally agree with you<br />
how are you<br />
post a new photo of you also</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Count me amongst those who just don&#039;t get the reaction to this at all.  Elizabeth Lambert is an athlete, playing at a very high level, in a very intense situation against a skilled opponent.  She definitely crossed the line, but someone always does in those circumstances when the refs do a poor job of keeping the game under control.  As someone who&#039;s watched and played plenty of ice hockey, I seen (and occasionally participated in) a lot worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me amongst those who just don&#8217;t get the reaction to this at all.  Elizabeth Lambert is an athlete, playing at a very high level, in a very intense situation against a skilled opponent.  She definitely crossed the line, but someone always does in those circumstances when the refs do a poor job of keeping the game under control.  As someone who&#8217;s watched and played plenty of ice hockey, I seen (and occasionally participated in) a lot worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Ouyang Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ouyang Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get this whole rile up...

Does no one in the States watch Hockey anymore? How is this any different?

Oh, yeah...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get this whole rile up&#8230;</p>
<p>Does no one in the States watch Hockey anymore? How is this any different?</p>
<p>Oh, yeah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually debated saying soccer or football to you when I was talking to you about it. I guess I chose poorly ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually debated saying soccer or football to you when I was talking to you about it. I guess I chose poorly <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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